Richard Sherwood

ABOUT :
DT Level :	Opal
Member since :	May 2002
Biography :	Independent GG Appraiser with 23 years experience in the gem & jewelry business.
Interests :	Diamonds, colored stones & the beach
Location :	Sarasota FL 34232
Occupation :	941-377-4509
Company: :	Sarasota Gem Lab

09-26-02 12:57 AM

In going over Sergey's offer several times, I've come to the conclusion that it is a very fair and impartial offer. I also believe that it could have far reaching implications for the industry.

I think this "meeting of the experts" could generate worldwide industry publicity. JCK, National Jeweler, Modern Jeweler would all eat this up. A practical test to see how well the human eye can detect lesser and larger variances in diamond cutting. A kind of "rubber meets the road" test. I think it would be good press for all involved, if it were handled professionally and in the spirit of contributing advanced knowledge to the industry as a whole.

Along those lines I would be willing to volunteer as one of the facilitators of this "test". I could offer my new lab office as a meeting place, and my services in handling logistics. In addition, I've got a condo which is vacant a large portion of the year which I would offer to house some of the participants. You'd have a hard time beating Sarasota, Florida as a meeting place. Our beaches beat out Hawaii in a contest for the most beautiful beaches in the world.

My new lab office is located within a high security "vault", with tightly controlled access, etc. A very classy enviroment, with paintings and works of art everywhere. Would look great in the promos.

I would take care of contacting the magazines, receiving fedex's, facilitating memos/purchases, storing diamonds, choreographing things, photographing the event, etc. I think this could be a real publicity gold mine guys. The "Russian aspect" with Sergey involved would further serve to throw a dramatic flair into the event.

I also like 43's idea of having consumers involved. It's actually a stroke of genius. Envision this- a representative group of consumers "seconding" the experts. Perhaps (3) experts, and (3) consumers. That would give the event even more "punch".

If Doc isn't interested in being one of the experts, then perhaps we could entice some well known appraisers to participate. Donald Palmieri comes to mind, along with Richard Drucker, Joseph Tenhagen, Dave Atlas, Tom Tashey, Elly Rosen, etc, etc, etc. High profile names which would generate publicity.

Anyway, if something's going to come out of this, count me in. I'll help in any of the logistics I can.

Rich, knows an "event" when he sees one...

dogbert

ABOUT :
DT Level :	Turquoise
Member since :	Dec 2000
Occupation :	bit nerd

09-27-02 12:59 AM

If Richard is organizing this little soiree, I think the inside track to getting an invite may via his wine glass, not flattery . In that spirit, I volunteer a bottle of '82 Cheval Blanc and an '89 DRC Richebourg . If Garry decides to come, we'll also see if the '82 Grange is over the hill as he suspects or still a tannic infant.

Paul - the whole point may be moot, but it still sounds like a lot of fun...as a consumer, I can't make it to Tucson or Las Vegas but maybe I can bribe my way into this event!

Garry Holloway

ABOUT :
DT Level :	Sapphire
Member since :	Apr 2000
Homepage :	www.ideal-scope.com/

09-28-02 12:08 AM

What size should the diamonds be?

I suggest .70-.75ct G-H SI1 for mnimum size / quality.

More than Roc and Rhino should be involved. Everyone involved should make a $ commitment to cover the costs.

Re 6.1 - no instruments - including loupe?

6.2 - One independant arbitrator / cutter could perform analysis? Why would Roc and Rhino be required? This would mean that they would need to have the stones at their lab = much shipping to and fro, as well as opportunity for unsupervised testing (cheating).

Re 2 and 3. - I think Remuneration is not appropriate - why these 2 and not others?

I am willing to commit $1,000 maximum towards the cost (ie. non refundable liablity) of this project, and fund it (a loan to be repaid) with another $4,000. (I will put $5,000 into the account of the second's fund) if these amended terms are acceptable.

David Atlas

ABOUT :
DT Level :	Sapphire
Member since :	Jan 2001
Interests :	Diamonds, estate jewelry, education, advice, GG(GIA), NGJA(NAJA), ASG(AGA)
Location :	Phila. PA 19106
Occupation :	Appraiser, Gemologist
Company :	AGA

09-28-02 08:52 PM

Official proposal to accomplish testing of influence of different types of variations of angles measured by Sarin (OGI) on diamond beauty (or just observability of difference in perceptions of eminently qualified appraisers.

Rockdoc, Rhino, Oldminer are on board and Sergey is looking for other qualified participants. Anyone with trained eyes and a willingness to participate, please post here or contact Sergey at Octonus.

Date	Name	Incomings	Outgoing	Status
09-26-02	Sergey Sivovolenko	$ 1000 total è $ 4000 floating fund.
09-24-02	Yuri Shelementiev	Web-pages support.
09-26-02	Richard Sherwood	The new lab office as a meeting place. The services in handling logistics
09-27-02	Dogbert	A bottle of '82 Cheval Blanc and an '89 DRC Richebourg
09-28-02	Garry Holloway	$ 1000 total è $ 4000 floating fund.
09-28-02	David Atlas	Official proposal to accomplish testing of influence of different types of variations of angles measured by Sarin (OGI)

 

	Total bills	Floating funds
Declared	$ 2000	$ 8000
Done	$ 2000

Other investments

1. Web-pages support. 2. The new lab office as a meeting place. 3. The services in handling logistics 4. A bottle of '82 Cheval Blanc and an '89 DRC Richebourg